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The Ultimate Social CRM Question

By Mike Boysen On June 21, 2010 · 16 Comments · In CRM, Innovation, Social CRM

What Does the “s” Mean in  sCRM?

[widget id="ad_unit-3"]ad_unit-3[/widget]Did you notice anything? I used a lowercase “s” because it’s time for the hype to be over (I didn’t come up with it – but saw it on Twitter). It’s time to start putting the social extensions to traditional CRM into place. There’s really no reason to keep talking about the social customer anymore either. Why? Because we all know that our friends, family, vendors, prospects and customers do more than email. So, what are we going to do about it?

I’ve got an idea!

Instead of creating completely ridiculous new interfaces that completely ignore the continuing realities of complete businesses – and not just the individual sales or marketing or service faces – why doesn’t someone create something that takes into consideration the jobs we still have to do – and give it to us where we’re already doing it? Why can’t more traditional interfaces be enhanced to incorporate engagement channels that we are all using beyond email, phone and the face to face stuff?

Watching some of the stuff that’s been developed is frustrating because they tend to trample all over the outside-in approach to solving problems. They take a little piece of technology and try to build the world around it. Wouldn’t it be so much nicer if the jobs we do were simply enhanced? Even if we’re not completely outside-in, can’t we slowly draw people and businesses down that path by extending their reach to places they could never reach before?

I’m ready to throw away my Twitter client

The problem with these things is that I don’t really have time to spend on them. The hacks and workarounds for monitoring what’s important to me has a problem. There is no simple way to monitor the people I want to, when I should be monitoring them and where I should be monitoring them – or engaging them. I can’t be in multiple places at once – MY JOB HASN’T CHANGED!

  • No, I don’t want to create a stack for each person.
  • Yes, I do want it to be in context.
  • No, I don’t want to use yet another service that purports to weight the importance of my contacts – outside the context for my complete relationship with them.
  • Yes, I do want to engage them in the social world but I need to see everything else in our relationship – and it would be nice to know what they’re talking about without me as well (without yet another service!)

I’m looking for the solution that extends the big CRM with a little bit of “s” and not the other way around. You can’t run a business on social, so why do so many entrepreneurs continue to make the same mistakes over and over. Here’s the answer – they forgot about the jobs we’re already doing to support our business strategies (whatever they are, good or bad).  It’s time to get with the program. What are the existing CRM vendors doing that really gets it? Is there anything coming down pike that’s new, yet respects the jobs we already do?

I’m sure there is.  ;-) I’m waiting eagerly – waiting for that someone who has figured out what that little “s” stands for.

Tagged with: CRM • friends family • individual sales • Innovation • lowercase • Social CRM • solving problems • traditional crm • workarounds 
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Mike Boysen

Mike Boysen, founder of Effective CRM, is a strategic consultant in the CRM arena. He brings practical insight to businesses to help them understand customer-centered business strategy: outside-in process design, frameworks for understanding customer needs, understanding the jobs of your customers, market growth through innovation, behavior driven relationship marketing programs and designing systems to support these initiatives. The technology part is simple, so why are you spending so much money on that? Can't answer that? This is not the CRM your friends have been talking about...

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  • http://crmweblog.crmmastery.com/ Jim Berkowitz

    Radical change always takes time — and sometimes the “new new thing” peters out before it takes hold. Discussing how social media is changing the buying process and how companies need to change to more “flat,” outside-in organizations are for sure interesting discussion topics – but very few organizations are actually making these changes yet (and many may never make the change)– Alas, we still live in a world where the hierarchical, departmental approach to running a company is the norm.

    In the real world, companies are using traditional marketing, sales force automation and CRM technologies. These tools don’t support an organization that wishes to become a more flat, outside-in organization. Although these traditional CRM vendors are trying to “bolt” social functionality into their solutions, these hybrid tools just don’t cut it in a social world.

    Brand new social tools for marketing and sales are trying to find a happy medium between the old and new (more social) way of doing things… why the tightrope? There just isn’t a big enough market yet for radically new sCRM tools.

    Right now, we are in a “chicken and egg” syndrome. Social media, communities, collaboration et al. are radically changing the way people buy… but businesses and the technology tools available to them haven’t offered a new compelling way to sell.

  • http://crmweblog.crmmastery.com/ Jim Berkowitz

    Radical change always takes time — and sometimes the “new new thing” peters out before it takes hold. Discussing how social media is changing the buying process and how companies need to change to more “flat,” outside-in organizations are for sure interesting discussion topics – but very few organizations are actually making these changes yet (and many may never make the change)– Alas, we still live in a world where the hierarchical, departmental approach to running a company is the norm.

    In the real world, companies are using traditional marketing, sales force automation and CRM technologies. These tools don’t support an organization that wishes to become a more flat, outside-in organization. Although these traditional CRM vendors are trying to “bolt” social functionality into their solutions, these hybrid tools just don’t cut it in a social world.

    Brand new social tools for marketing and sales are trying to find a happy medium between the old and new (more social) way of doing things… why the tightrope? There just isn’t a big enough market yet for radically new sCRM tools.

    Right now, we are in a “chicken and egg” syndrome. Social media, communities, collaboration et al. are radically changing the way people buy… but businesses and the technology tools available to them haven’t offered a new compelling way to sell.

  • http://www.effective-crm-consulting.com Mike Boysen

    Jim,

    “Radical changes always take time.” Not all radical changes should be adopted. It’s not that customers have more options (social) it’s that companies still have jobs to do. The solutions I’m seeing out there, other than customer service communities, are redefining an entire job with no basis. And to top it off, they’re calling it “S”CRM (big S to promote their roots – social media).

    No one, outside a rogue startup, is going to throw their entire business down the drain and run it off some new software paradigm (any number of misguided attempts to create a market). The jobs, whether a company realizes it or not, are in a slightly different playing field today. The vendors that understand the subtle, yet powerful change, are the ones that are going to get it. The ones that believe everything before is a throw away are just plain naive.

  • http://www.effective-crm-consulting.com Mike Boysen

    Jim,

    “Radical changes always take time.” Not all radical changes should be adopted. It’s not that customers have more options (social) it’s that companies still have jobs to do. The solutions I’m seeing out there, other than customer service communities, are redefining an entire job with no basis. And to top it off, they’re calling it “S”CRM (big S to promote their roots – social media).

    No one, outside a rogue startup, is going to throw their entire business down the drain and run it off some new software paradigm (any number of misguided attempts to create a market). The jobs, whether a company realizes it or not, are in a slightly different playing field today. The vendors that understand the subtle, yet powerful change, are the ones that are going to get it. The ones that believe everything before is a throw away are just plain naive.

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